In March 2019, the New Museum presented a conversation between artist Mariana Castillo Deball and Fordham University Professor Barbara Mundy, on the occasion of the exhibition “Finding Oneself Outside,” Castillo Deball’s first solo exhibition in New York City. Mundy is an art historian specializing in Latin American art and indigenous cartography of the sixteenth century, while Castillo Deball’s artistic practice regularly engages specific historical modes of the production and exchange of knowledge, including maps, iconography, and cosmological forms. Mundy’s intricate understanding of the map of San Pedro Teozacoalco (c. 1580) helped to guide and contextualize the conversation about Castillo Deball’s large-scale inlaid wood floor installation, Teozacoalco Map (2019), which draws directly from the early European colonial and Mixtec visual traditions of the sixteenth century. Together, they discussed the legacies of colonial cartography and codices in Central America and the ways in which Castillo Deball’s practice deliberately engages with academic and archaeological research to make visible the institutional structures and complicated temporal paths involved in constructing and disseminating knowledge about cultural histories.